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Examining Reasoning LLMs-as-Judges in Non-Verifiable LLM Post-Training

arXiv cs.AI / 3/13/2026

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Key Points

  • The paper investigates the effectiveness of reasoning LLMs-as-Judges for non-verifiable post-training alignment and compares reasoning and non-reasoning judges in a controlled setting.
  • In a synthetic setup using a gold-standard judge (gpt-oss-120b) to provide preference annotations for smaller judges, non-reasoning judges tend to induce reward hacking while reasoning judges can yield policies that perform well when evaluated by the gold standard.
  • However, reasoning-judge-trained policies can learn to generate adversarial outputs that score well on popular benchmarks like Arena-Hard by deceiving other LLM-judges.
  • The study outlines opportunities and limitations for applying reasoning LLM-judges in non-verifiable LLM post-training and suggests improvements in evaluation methods to mitigate these vulnerabilities.

Abstract

Reasoning LLMs-as-Judges, which can benefit from inference-time scaling, provide a promising path for extending the success of reasoning models to non-verifiable domains where the output correctness/quality cannot be directly checked. However, while reasoning judges have shown better performance on static evaluation benchmarks, their effectiveness in actual policy training has not been systematically examined. Therefore, we conduct a rigorous study to investigate the actual impact of non-reasoning and reasoning judges in reinforcement-learning-based LLM alignment. Our controlled synthetic setting, where a "gold-standard" judge (gpt-oss-120b) provides preference annotations to train smaller judges, reveals key differences between non-reasoning and reasoning judges: non-reasoning judges lead to reward hacking easily, while reasoning judges can lead to policies that achieve strong performance when evaluated by the gold-standard judge. Interestingly, we find that the reasoning-judge-trained policies achieve such strong performance by learning to generate highly effective adversarial outputs that can also score well on popular benchmarks such as Arena-Hard by deceiving other LLM-judges. Combined with our further analysis, our study highlights both important findings and room for improvements for applying (reasoning) LLM-judges in non-verifiable LLM post-training.