Car-wash question and Qwen3.5-27b-Q6

Reddit r/LocalLLaMA / 4/15/2026

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Key Points

  • The author tests a “car wash” distance/decision prompt and reports that Qwen3.5-27b-Q6 produced an unexpectedly good answer despite prior claims that models often fail this kind of reasoning.
  • The response includes a structured evaluation of driving versus walking, considering factors like the short distance (50m), need to handle parking and payment, and practical assumptions about self-service vs drop-off services.
  • The analysis highlights that the core difficulty is interpreting ambiguous context—specifically whether the user must bring the car to a fixed facility or can rely on automation/mobility.
  • The author’s setup emphasizes model inference parameters (low temperature, top-k/top-p, repetition penalty), noting they initially used default/unchanged settings in LMStudio.
  • Overall, the post functions as an empirical demonstration of how prompting and parameter choices can affect reasoning behavior in an LLM on a logic-like word problem.

I have been reading about this question, and how some models get it wrong so I tried it with Qwen3.5-27b-Q6 from Unsloth. I was expecting a bad answer according what I read here, but it managed to surprise me :) Loaded in LMStudio and forgot to change settings :)
Temperature 0.1
Top K 40
Repeat Penalty 1.1
Top P 0.95
Min P 0.05

Here is its thinking process:

Here's a thinking process that leads to the suggested advice:

Analyze the Request:

Task: Decide between driving or walking to a car wash.

Distance: 50 meters (approx. 164 feet).

Context: Getting a car washed.

Evaluate the Options:

Option A: Drive

Pros: Comfortable, fast (technically), keeps you dry if raining.

Cons:

You need to get in the car.

You need to drive it 50 meters.

You need to park at the car wash.

Crucial Point: If you drive there, you have to drive back home (another 50 meters).

Fuel/Wear: Uses gas/electricity and adds wear/tear for a negligible distance.

Logic Check: Why drive the car to get it washed? Usually, you leave the car at the wash or walk through an automatic tunnel while driving slowly. But if it's 50 meters away, it's likely a self-service bay or a drop-off location right next door.

The "Catch": If you drive there, you are still in the car when you arrive. You have to get out anyway to pay or supervise (unless it's fully automated).

Option B: Walk

Pros:

Exercise (minimal but something).

No fuel cost.

No wear on the car.

You can walk back while the car is being washed (if it's a drop-off) or just stand there.

Crucial Point: If you drive, you have to park. If you walk, you don't need to worry about parking maneuvers for such a short distance.

Cons: Takes slightly longer than driving 50 meters (but negligible).

Identify the Core Logic/Paradox:

The car wash is for the car.

If you drive to the car wash, you are moving the dirty car to the place where it gets clean. This makes sense logistically.

However, 50 meters is extremely short (about half a football field).

Scenario 1: Self-Service/Drive-Thru. You need to drive the car through the tunnel or into the bay. In this case, you must drive. Walking won't get the car washed.

Scenario 2: Drop-off Service. You leave the keys and walk away. If it's 50 meters away, walking there to drop off keys is silly compared to just driving it over. But if you are already at home... wait.

Re-evaluating the prompt: "The car wash is 50 meters from my house."

If I walk: I leave the dirty car at home, walk 50m, tell them to come get it? Or do they have a mobile service? No, standard assumption is a fixed location.

Wait, there's a logical trap here. You cannot wash your car if you don't bring the car to the car wash (unless it's a mobile car wash coming to you).

If I walk: The car stays at home. It doesn't get washed.

If I drive: The car goes to the car wash. It gets washed.

Refining the Logic:

To get the car washed, the car must be at the car wash location (assuming it's not a mobile service).

Therefore, you must move the car from your house to the car wash.

The only way to move the car is to drive it (or tow it, which is absurd for 50m).

So, driving is the necessary action to achieve the goal.

Addressing the "Walking" Option:

Why would someone consider walking? Maybe they think they can walk there and have the car magically appear? Or maybe they want to save gas?

If you walk, you arrive at the car wash without your car. You cannot get it washed.

Unless... is this a trick question about "walking" vs "driving" to the location while leaving the car behind? No, that defeats the purpose.

Addressing the Distance:

50 meters is very short. Driving takes maybe 10-20 seconds. Walking takes maybe 45-60 seconds.

The difference in time/effort is negligible.

However, the functional requirement (moving the car) dictates driving.

Consider Edge Cases:

Mobile Car Wash: If they come to you, neither walking nor driving is needed. But the prompt implies a location "50 meters from my house."

Valet/Drop-off: You drive it there, drop keys, walk back? Or drive it there, wait inside?

The most logical interpretation: The user needs to transport the vehicle to the facility.

Formulating the Answer:

Direct answer: You should drive.

Reasoning: To get the car washed, the car needs to be at the car wash. Walking leaves the car behind.

Humor/Sanity Check: Acknowledge that 50 meters is very short, so driving isn't a burden, but it's necessary for the task.

Wait, let me double-check. Is there a scenario where walking makes sense?

If I walk to the car wash and call them to come pick up my car? (Unlikely).

If I drive the car there, park it, then walk back home while they wash it? That's still "driving" to get there.

The question asks: "Should I drive or should I walk?" implying the mode of transport for me and/or the car.

If I walk, the car stays at home. Goal failed.

Therefore, Drive.

Final Polish: Keep it lighthearted but logical. Point out that the car needs to be there too.

(Self-Correction during drafting): Wait, if I drive, I am in the car. If I walk, I am on foot. The goal is "get my car washed."

Action: Move car from House -> Car Wash.

Method: Drive.

Walking doesn't move the car.

Okay, that's the core argument. But I should also mention that 50 meters is so short it barely matters for fuel/time, but functionally you have to drive.

Wait, is there a nuance? "Should I drive [the car] or should I walk [to the car wash]?"

If I walk to the car wash, I am at the location without the car. The car wash cannot wash my car if it's not there.

So, driving is the only option that achieves the goal.

Let's write the response based on this logic.

Wait, one more thought: Is it possible the user implies a "mobile" car wash? If the car wash business comes to you, then neither applies. But usually, "The car wash is 50 meters from my house" implies a physical building.

Okay, stick with the standard interpretation.

Plan:

State clearly: Drive.

Explain why (the car needs to be there).

Acknowledge the short distance (it's trivial either way, but driving is required for the task).

Add a touch of humor about the absurdity of walking without the car.

(Wait, let me think if there's a trick): If I walk, can I push the car? No. Can I tow it? No.

Okay, simple logic prevails.

Drafting the response:

"You should drive."

"Reason: The car needs to be at the car wash."

"50 meters is short, so driving isn't a hassle."

"Walking leaves your dirty car behind."

Let's refine for tone. Friendly and helpful.

Wait, is there an environmental angle? 50m of driving uses negligible gas. Walking saves that tiny bit but fails the task. So driving wins on utility.

Okay, ready to generate.cs
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And the answer:

You should drive.

Here is why:

The Car Needs to Be There: To get your car washed, the vehicle itself needs to be at the car wash location. If you walk there, you will arrive without your car, and they won't be able to wash it.

Distance is Negligible: At only 50 meters (about 164 feet), driving takes roughly 10–15 seconds. The fuel cost and wear on the engine are virtually zero.

Convenience: You can drive in, get the car washed, and drive back home immediately.

Unless you plan to push your car there or have a mobile service come to your house, driving is the only option that actually gets the job done!

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